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post #1101 of 1171
Strangely.....that never happens to me.

And I'm not even sure it could..
post #1102 of 1171
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I'm sorry, I haven't! It's just sitting there mocking me. This was a busy weekend, we threw my two-year-old a birthday party. A Little Mermaid-themed party.

 

Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel Ariel

 

But I hope to get to it some night this week!

 

Coincidentally, "Ariel" was Kitty Pryde's code name in the X-Men comic.

 

FACT!

post #1103 of 1171

So I finally did the unthinkable: for the sake of Fraid, I watched this movie.

 

And you know what? I liked it!

 

I have a long history with the X-Men. They were my favorite comic book characters growing up, especially Wolverine. I, of course, loved the '92 animated series. And when the first movie came out in 2000, it blew me away.

 

Those were simpler times, but for years I held that the first two X-Men movies were the best comic book movies ever. As the years have worn on, however, I've somewhat soured on the second movie, but still feel the first is remarkable in its economy and distilled essence of the characters.

 

So this movie, Apocalypse, obviously owes a big debt to the first two. Not only is Singer firmly back in as the creative force behind the series, but the relative status quo of the early series is in play. The mansion is a school for young mutants, the adult X-Men are teachers, and there's a villain trying to take over the world.

 

And Oscar Isaac's En Sabah Nur is perhaps the most classic comic book villain in years. For too long there's been an insistence on subversion and deconstruction, to the point where supervillains don't get to do any mustache-twirling anymore. I'm of a mind that superhero movies are a silly affair, and what I want out of them is simple morality tales/soap operas that don't question the reality of their situation, but tell rollicking adventure stories with a subtext of social commentary.

 

The subtext here, unfortunately, has lost a bit of its potency. Mutants have always been a stand-in for any sort of oppressed minority, whether it be the civil rights movement or closeted homosexuals. This movie is provocative in that, with the rewritten timeline, this is the first time that mutants are "out", living as equals, in the world and yet still face prejudice. Whereas the earlier movies treated the metaphor as harkening back to the Jim Crow days, this is a look at what if mutants got their equal rights and were still treated as second-class citizens.

 

Still, more could have been done. With Magneto, Public Enemy Number One, on the run I felt like there as a bit of Osama Bin Laden there, and the same with Apocalypse coming from Egypt and broadcasting into everyone's minds much like onto everyone's television screens...sorry, SYSTEMS. There also seemed to be an attempt at tackling current feelings on xenophobia and refugees, with emphasis on characters getting smuggled across borders. But not much there.

 

So, the characters. This is by far the best treatment of Cyclops and Jean Grey. It's almost like Singer is making up for how neglected Cyclops was in these movies, and Jean gets to be more than Wolverine's crush. The kid playing Nightcrawler does an amiable job, and I liked their little trio. Going to the mall was a very X-Men moment, even if it resulted in a ridiculously petty "third movie" joke. Sophie Turner doesn't quite pull off an American accent, she speaks through her nose much like Keira Knightley, but I liked her. I liked her much more when she and Cyclops were bonding over how much the other students fear them. That kind of pays off with the Phoenix bit at the end, but it's a little undercooked.

 

I wouldn't have minded a quieter movie just about the kids, because the older generation isn't exactly going through the motions, but they're not doing career-best work either. I don't think James McAvoy gets enough credit with these movies. He singlehandedly propels Days of Future Past, a "broken" movie as Nooj calls it, into something with grace and aching pain. Here he's fine. He's settled into the role. But the edge of his earlier appearances is gone. Now he's saintly Xavier, no longer a bro-hard womanizer or scraggly-haired junky. I will say his losing his hair was nicely set up, even if it led to a single-tear moment during the big action finale.

 

Michael Fassbender. Again, lost his edge. I was surprised that what could've been the worst part of the movie, him undercover with a wife and kid, actually was his best work. Through sheer force of will alone, I bought his love for them. Much like Magneto: Nazi Hunter in First Class, I wanted more of incognito Magneto. But him being a follower of Apocalypse I didn't buy at all, so he basically spends the second half standing around glassy-eyed smashing stuff. What a waste. 

 

Jennifer Lawrence. I know there's been a backlash against her, but she's doing fine work here. Her Mystique has never really felt like anything more than Jennifer Lawrence being herself, but that's okay. This is Mystique, who really should be nothing more than sneaky assassin, turned action hero so that's uncharted territory for any version. I will say DoFP gave her that edge, that will she/won't she go to the dark side, and that's kind of lacking here. Her conviction that the X-Men need to be prepared for war was something I wasn't expecting, and was actually a natural progression for the character. Xavier admitting this, and her becoming a field leader of sorts, is a tight little bow on the trilogy that is First Class, DoFP and Apocalypse.

 

Now bear in mind it's hard to tear this movie away from nostalgia and/or good will for me. Evan Peters, for instance, is an actor I've been watching for six years on American Horror Story, and though his performance here is a little one-note (make bug eyes, smirk with self-satisfaction), there's a social awkwardness and loneliness that added a lot of depth. It's a strange side effect of insisting these movies jump ahead a decade each time that you now have to explain what characters have been doing that whole time. So Quicksilver apparently is now a failure-to-launch, the school has been active for give or take 20 years but the X-Men are only now becoming a team after two false starts, and Havoc is a, what, 38-year-old man with a 17-year-old brother? It's perfectly possible, but the kind of strange gymnastics this series puts itself through unnaturally.

 

I don't mind it. The X-Men belong in the '80s in terms of cheesiness, apex Chris Claremont and over-the-top villains, so I'm glad the movie made the jump. And the haircuts. As my wife said, "How does James McAvoy pull off that hair? He's beautiful!" Lucas Till's MacGyver hair, however, no good. No damn good. And poor Nicholas Hoult looking like himself for 20 years, no changing with the times except for a bit of corduroy in the '70s. 

 

So Bryan Singer, this guy. He's been doing these damn things for almost two decades now, and he knows where his meal ticket is. But I sure wish the guy had evolved as an action director. There's more ambition now, especially with that opening-of-a-Mummy-movie opening. He doesn't shy away from the outrageous mutant powers or costumes either. And the ending goes BIG. But the guy just doesn't know how to think fourth dimensionally. His idea of style is to CGI fly through stuff, and that happens about three times. His fight choreography is still a lot of people throwing each other around. Though the blood quantum is upped here, it's still pretty standard action. For instance, Wolverine's berserker massacre* should have been shot like a horror movie, but the lighting, oh God the lighting. So harsh, so blunt, it kind of made Wolverine look silly. And while he should've been an animal flailing in every direction, he was doing these rolls and elaborate judo moves. This return to Weapon X over and over...I gotta say, nothing can top the brief, chaotic snippets we saw of a naked (not wearing black shorts) Jackman in X2 screaming at the blood on his own claws. But credit where credit is due, it's clear and not shaky, not cut to pieces. You can see what's happening! But it lacks the visceral punch that I just know Logan has.

 

And while I lament the X-Men once again wearing black rubber, it kind of felt like stalwart screenwriter Simon Kinberg wrote himself into a corner with the Weapon X digression and came up with a way to have any kind of suits. Because the villains look colorful and comic book-y, and the suits at the end do, too. Everything about this is a Saturday morning cartoon, so I'll forgive the black one last time. 

 

So verdict? Pretty good, and certainly not the travesty everyone made it out to be! I think I benefited from waiting a year, lowering my expectations (I wasn't going to watch this at all) and the undeniable truth that I dig these characters and actors. Whenever they pop up again, it still blows my mind that much like the Fast & Furious and Resident Evil franchises, somebody cares enough to dig down deep and get random people to return. We've also gotten to a point that I really dig, like the later Harry Potter movies, where the filmmakers can use old footage as memories. That's a benefit of a long-running franchise, as Magneto and Xavier's flashbacks to First Class were really effective. Pandering, manipulative? Perhaps! But it worked.

 

And I'll give it this: there may be too many characters and spinning plates, but it was completely coherent. Unlike most modern blockbusters, there's a super-simple A to B to C method of storytelling here. Apocalypse's gathering of his Four Horsemen is treated with patience, he's given a unique motivation (for a second I thought there was going to be some serious nuking of major cities, but was pleasantly surprised when he pulled a Superman IV), and there still manages to be heart-string-tugging stakes with the mansion getting destroyed. Even if they Star Trek Beyond it and rebuild it in two seconds. 

 

So yeah, I liked it. 

 

Ranking!!!

 

X-Men

The Wolverine

First Class

X-Men 2

X-Men: Days of Future Past

X-Men: Apocalypse 

Deadpool (that's right, I'm the one guy that thinks Deadpool is funny for five minutes, but obnoxious for two hours) 

X-Men 3

Wolverine: X-Men Origins (fuck this goddamn fucking movie)

 

*Jackman looked much less veiny this time around. Man, he was looking icky in DoFP. Lay off the steroids, brah! 

post #1104 of 1171

FRAID! Come on, I'm here. Do it nooooooowwwwww!!!

 

post #1105 of 1171
Yaaaaaaaaay! Another joins the Church of Apocalypse! (did I just coin a cult name there or what? Heaven's Gate here we come.)

I think your ranking of them all is very close to mine although I'd put Days of Future Past higher. I REALLY liked that one. The wild card in this was Oscar Isaac. I couldn't see him as Apocalypse. But it was a weird (almost quiet) off kilter performance and I enjoyed it and I'm glad Bart did too!
post #1106 of 1171
Apocalypse is our Paris, Fraid.
post #1107 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Fraid uh noman View Post

Yaaaaaaaaay! Another joins the Church of Apocalypse! (did I just coin a cult name there or what? Heaven's Gate here we come.)

I think your ranking of them all is very close to mine although I'd put Days of Future Past higher. I REALLY liked that one. The wild card in this was Oscar Isaac. I couldn't see him as Apocalypse. But it was a weird (almost quiet) off kilter performance and I enjoyed it and I'm glad Bart did too!

I dig DoFP, but for its highs it has dull lows. Again not much for Magneto to do in the second half. And for as much as I like the everybody-dies future stuff for its desperation, I don't care about the new characters. And man whatever it is that temple they're in looks fake as hell.

X-Men 2 on any given day may knock First Class or even The Wolverine out of their spots. The mansion assault is still an all-timer! And I really dig the Deathstrike fight. But a lot of X2 is strangely hokey, like the humor, and stagey in a way that doesn't fit the tone. Wolverine at the facility in the opening with the snow and the wolf, it all looks so fake and clean for some reason.
post #1108 of 1171
Thread Starter 
The future crew with Blink, Bishop, Warpath, and Sunspot was a high-point in the series for me, entirely because I grew up with those characters so their history and drama carried over. I don't really give a shit about any of Singer's characters. Seeing the crew from my childhood as prime X-Men, using their powers together and kicking ass was great. And Singer's action has never been as badass as Blink's portals.
post #1109 of 1171
The Wolverine is my favorite above all.

So you KNOW I'm pumped for Logan..
post #1110 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post

So I finally did the unthinkable: for the sake of Fraid, I watched this movie.

And you know what? I liked it!

I have a long history with the X-Men. They were my favorite comic book characters growing up, especially Wolverine. I, of course, loved the '92 animated series. And when the first movie came out in 2000, it blew me away.

Those were simpler times, but for years I held that the first two X-Men movies were the best comic book movies ever. As the years have worn on, however, I've somewhat soured on the second movie, but still feel the first is remarkable in its economy and distilled essence of the characters.

So this movie, Apocalypse, obviously owes a big debt to the first two. Not only is Singer firmly back in as the creative force behind the series, but the relative status quo of the early series is in play. The mansion is a school for young mutants, the adult X-Men are teachers, and there's a villain trying to take over the world.

And Oscar Isaac's En Sabah Nur is perhaps the most classic comic book villain in years. For too long there's been an insistence on subversion and deconstruction, to the point where supervillains don't get to do any mustache-twirling anymore. I'm of a mind that superhero movies are a silly affair, and what I want out of them is simple morality tales/soap operas that don't question the reality of their situation, but tell rollicking adventure stories with a subtext of social commentary.

The subtext here, unfortunately, has lost a bit of its potency. Mutants have always been a stand-in for any sort of oppressed minority, whether it be the civil rights movement or closeted homosexuals. This movie is provocative in that, with the rewritten timeline, this is the first time that mutants are "out", living as equals, in the world and yet still face prejudice. Whereas the earlier movies treated the metaphor as harkening back to the Jim Crow days, this is a look at what if mutants got their equal rights and were still treated as second-class citizens.

Still, more could have been done. With Magneto, Public Enemy Number One, on the run I felt like there as a bit of Osama Bin Laden there, and the same with Apocalypse coming from Egypt and broadcasting into everyone's minds much like onto everyone's television screens...sorry, SYSTEMS. There also seemed to be an attempt at tackling current feelings on xenophobia and refugees, with emphasis on characters getting smuggled across borders. But not much there.

So, the characters. This is by far the best treatment of Cyclops and Jean Grey. It's almost like Singer is making up for how neglected Cyclops was in these movies, and Jean gets to be more than Wolverine's crush. The kid playing Nightcrawler does an amiable job, and I liked their little trio. Going to the mall was a very X-Men moment, even if it resulted in a ridiculously petty "third movie" joke. Sophie Turner doesn't quite pull off an American accent, she speaks through her nose much like Keira Knightley, but I liked her. I liked her much more when she and Cyclops were bonding over how much the other students fear them. That kind of pays off with the Phoenix bit at the end, but it's a little undercooked.

I wouldn't have minded a quieter movie just about the kids, because the older generation isn't exactly going through the motions, but they're not doing career-best work either. I don't think James McAvoy gets enough credit with these movies. He singlehandedly propels Days of Future Past, a "broken" movie as Nooj calls it, into something with grace and aching pain. Here he's fine. He's settled into the role. But the edge of his earlier appearances is gone. Now he's saintly Xavier, no longer a bro-hard womanizer or scraggly-haired junky. I will say his losing his hair was nicely set up, even if it led to a single-tear moment during the big action finale.

Michael Fassbender. Again, lost his edge. I was surprised that what could've been the worst part of the movie, him undercover with a wife and kid, actually was his best work. Through sheer force of will alone, I bought his love for them. Much like Magneto: Nazi Hunter in First Class, I wanted more of incognito Magneto. But him being a follower of Apocalypse I didn't buy at all, so he basically spends the second half standing around glassy-eyed smashing stuff. What a waste. 

Jennifer Lawrence. I know there's been a backlash against her, but she's doing fine work here. Her Mystique has never really felt like anything more than Jennifer Lawrence being herself, but that's okay. This is Mystique, who really should be nothing more than sneaky assassin, turned action hero so that's uncharted territory for any version. I will say DoFP gave her that edge, that will she/won't she go to the dark side, and that's kind of lacking here. Her conviction that the X-Men need to be prepared for war was something I wasn't expecting, and was actually a natural progression for the character. Xavier admitting this, and her becoming a field leader of sorts, is a tight little bow on the trilogy that is First Class, DoFP and Apocalypse.

Now bear in mind it's hard to tear this movie away from nostalgia and/or good will for me. Evan Peters, for instance, is an actor I've been watching for six years on American Horror Story, and though his performance here is a little one-note (make bug eyes, smirk with self-satisfaction), there's a social awkwardness and loneliness that added a lot of depth. It's a strange side effect of insisting these movies jump ahead a decade each time that you now have to explain what characters have been doing that whole time. So Quicksilver apparently is now a failure-to-launch, the school has been active for give or take 20 years but the X-Men are only now becoming a team after two false starts, and Havoc is a, what, 38-year-old man with a 17-year-old brother? It's perfectly possible, but the kind of strange gymnastics this series puts itself through unnaturally.

I don't mind it. The X-Men belong in the '80s in terms of cheesiness, apex Chris Claremont and over-the-top villains, so I'm glad the movie made the jump. And the haircuts. As my wife said, "How does James McAvoy pull off that hair? He's beautiful!" Lucas Till's MacGyver hair, however, no good. No damn good. And poor Nicholas Hoult looking like himself for 20 years, no changing with the times except for a bit of corduroy in the '70s. 

So Bryan Singer, this guy. He's been doing these damn things for almost two decades now, and he knows where his meal ticket is. But I sure wish the guy had evolved as an action director. There's more ambition now, especially with that opening-of-a-Mummy-movie opening. He doesn't shy away from the outrageous mutant powers or costumes either. And the ending goes BIG. But the guy just doesn't know how to think fourth dimensionally. His idea of style is to CGI fly through stuff, and that happens about three times. His fight choreography is still a lot of people throwing each other around. Though the blood quantum is upped here, it's still pretty standard action. For instance, Wolverine's berserker massacre* should have been shot like a horror movie, but the lighting, oh God the lighting. So harsh, so blunt, it kind of made Wolverine look silly. And while he should've been an animal flailing in every direction, he was doing these rolls and elaborate judo moves. This return to Weapon X over and over...I gotta say, nothing can top the brief, chaotic snippets we saw of a naked (not wearing black shorts) Jackman in X2 screaming at the blood on his own claws. But credit where credit is due, it's clear and not shaky, not cut to pieces. You can see what's happening! But it lacks the visceral punch that I just know Logan has.

And while I lament the X-Men once again wearing black rubber, it kind of felt like stalwart screenwriter Simon Kinberg wrote himself into a corner with the Weapon X digression and came up with a way to have any kind of suits. Because the villains look colorful and comic book-y, and the suits at the end do, too. Everything about this is a Saturday morning cartoon, so I'll forgive the black one last time. 

So verdict? Pretty good, and certainly not the travesty everyone made it out to be! I think I benefited from waiting a year, lowering my expectations (I wasn't going to watch this at all) and the undeniable truth that I dig these characters and actors. Whenever they pop up again, it still blows my mind that much like the Fast & Furious and Resident Evil franchises, somebody cares enough to dig down deep and get random people to return. We've also gotten to a point that I really dig, like the later Harry Potter movies, where the filmmakers can use old footage as memories. That's a benefit of a long-running franchise, as Magneto and Xavier's flashbacks to First Class were really effective. Pandering, manipulative? Perhaps! But it worked.

And I'll give it this: there may be too many characters and spinning plates, but it was completely coherent. Unlike most modern blockbusters, there's a super-simple A to B to C method of storytelling here. Apocalypse's gathering of his Four Horsemen is treated with patience, he's given a unique motivation (for a second I thought there was going to be some serious nuking of major cities, but was pleasantly surprised when he pulled a Superman IV), and there still manages to be heart-string-tugging stakes with the mansion getting destroyed. Even if they Star Trek Beyond it and rebuild it in two seconds. 

So yeah, I liked it. 

Ranking!!!

X-Men
The Wolverine
First Class
X-Men 2
X-Men: Days of Future Past
X-Men: Apocalypse 
Deadpool (that's right, I'm the one guy that thinks Deadpool is funny for five minutes, but obnoxious for two hours) 
X-Men 3
Wolverine: X-Men Origins (fuck this goddamn fucking movie)

*Jackman looked much less veiny this time around. Man, he was looking icky in DoFP. Lay off the steroids, brah! 
Man, that is a lot of writing for a generic, borderline shitty movie.

And the thought that boring ass the Wolverine is someone's favorite x men movie just seems like a huge joke. I hope Logan breaks the curse but Wolverine on his own just does not click. Some characters on screen work better in a ensemble.
post #1111 of 1171

I think all the other X Men should just disband & allow Logan to go solo from here on out.

Jean Grey can be a stay at home mom for his kids.

post #1112 of 1171
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Aren't you the gentleman?

Fraid asked me for about a month to give the movie a thorough consideration. So I did.

Buddy.
post #1113 of 1171
APOCALYPSE > CIVIL WAR.

Because Pizza Dog.
post #1114 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post

Aren't you the gentleman?

Fraid asked me for about a month to give the movie a thorough consideration. So I did.

Buddy.
glad you enjoyed it. The movie is just nowhere near interesting enough to talk or write that long about it imo. It's a movie that just kind of exists. Nothing special and is barely a blip in the midst of all the comic book movies we get. But, I saw it coming anyway after watching days of future past. That was one overpraising movie that showed why, while not the worst out there by far, a change in image and creativity first the X men is very much needed.
post #1115 of 1171
I haven't even seen this movie, but now I want to write an essay on it.
post #1116 of 1171
Sands, I'll watch FLASH GORDON and GODS OF EGYPT if you watch APOCALYPSE.
post #1117 of 1171

Don't do it Sands, you're getting the bum end of the deal.

post #1118 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

Sands, I'll watch FLASH GORDON and GODS OF EGYPT if you watch APOCALYPSE.
Deal.
post #1119 of 1171
607128
post #1120 of 1171
It's not even a matter of liking the movie, although I did. I wanted to live up to the hype of Fraid asking me for a month.

To come in here and just say "pretty good" would've been anticlimactic.
post #1121 of 1171
Thread Starter 
Sands, no matter what you think, please write an essay twice as long as Bart's.
post #1122 of 1171

I thought Apocalypse wasn't any less entertaining than any of the other Marvel films & beats out quite a few others as well.

IMHO

post #1123 of 1171
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Sands, no matter what you think, please write an essay twice as long as Bart's.

Oh God yes, please.
post #1124 of 1171
If Stocks is serious about his end of the bargain, I'll watch APOCALYPSE this week.
post #1125 of 1171

oh man, I CAIN'T LOSE!!!

post #1126 of 1171

Yasssssssss

post #1127 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Racj82 View Post

glad you enjoyed it. The movie is just nowhere near interesting enough to talk or write that long about it imo. It's a movie that just kind of exists. Nothing special and is barely a blip in the midst of all the comic book movies we get. But, I saw it coming anyway after watching days of future past. That was one overpraising movie that showed why, while not the worst out there by far, a change in image and creativity first the X men is very much needed.
By all means, let's not talk about X-Men Apocalypse in the X-Men Apocalypse thread..
post #1128 of 1171
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If Stocks is serious about his end of the bargain, I'll watch APOCALYPSE this week.

Tell me, do I look serious?


post #1129 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post

Tell me, do I look serious?


Well...
post #1130 of 1171
Caution: I also like SPECTRE.
post #1131 of 1171
I have no expectations for this flick.

I rag on the MCU relentlessly, but I've always liked the X-flicks. That preference may be kinda arbitrary, but I've always responded to the humanism running through the X-flicks.

As far as I'm concerned, this X-Men franchise ended with DOFP, which is why I didn't really bother with APOCALYPSE. Both it and LOGAN, whatever their individual merits, feel like unnecessary epilogues.

But I'm sure I'll find things to enjoy.
post #1132 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Mr. Stockslivevan View Post


Tell me, do I look serious?


 

You're scaring me, bro.

post #1133 of 1171

I don't see how anyone can be afraid of a close-up of Anthony Michael Hall.

post #1134 of 1171
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Originally Posted by millennium1 View Post
 

I don't see how anyone can be afraid of a close-up of Anthony Michael Hall.

 

He had a GUN in his locker!

post #1135 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Agentsands77 View Post

I have no expectations for this flick.

I rag on the MCU relentlessly, but I've always liked the X-flicks. That preference may be kinda arbitrary, but I've always responded to the humanism running through the X-flicks.

As far as I'm concerned, this X-Men franchise ended with DOFP, which is why I didn't really bother with APOCALYPSE. Both it and LOGAN, whatever their individual merits, feel like unnecessary epilogues.

But I'm sure I'll find things to enjoy.
I really hope you enjoy this more than you expect to. I genuinely like it without an ounce of irony. Although I'll rifle off all of it's flaws if asked to. I'm not blind to them by any means. I just think that flaws are meaningless sometimes in the face of the bigger picture.

And just for reference (cue Bradito to make fun of ranking anything)...this is my current X-Men order of greatness (yes I said GREATNESS):
The Wolverine
Days of Future Past
First Class
X-Men
Apocalypse
X2
The Last Stand

And Origins does not matter. Also not putting Deadpool in there because it's too much it's own thing...but if I DID....it'd probably be between X-Men (2000) and First Class.

X-Men The Last Stand is the only one I borderline dislike but it has just enough positives (Kelsey Grammar's Beast is FANTASTIC) that I enjoy watching it so, it squeaks by.

I have a feeling Logan is gonna push every single one of them down a spot..
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The good thing about X-Men movies is they're designed for large ensembles. Most of the character arcs are tied into the powers, whether or not they can learn to control or accept them.

And questions of good and evil are complicated by genetic destiny. Is it wrong for the runner to run as fast as he can? And is it wrong for a mutant to be themselves even if that means shooting laser beams from their eyes?

So Apocalypse at the very least manages to give every single character something to do.
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jesus 

 

just a bunch of rankings and lists everywhere this weekend

 

you all sicken me

 

ptooey ptooey

post #1138 of 1171
Nooj invoked Korean Jesus's name in vain!*

*21 Jump Street reference
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VISIONARY LISTS WITHOUT VISION
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People on CHUD rankings:

Blah
Blah
Blah
Dead last: NOOJ!
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People on CHUD rankings:

Blah
Blah
Blah
Dead last: NOOJ!

 

*Approved*

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VISIONARY LISTS WITHOUT VISION
What sort of vision do I need?? Help me to see the light!!
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being last on awful lists is exactly where I want to be!

post #1144 of 1171
You know I love you Nooj..
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jesus 

 

just a bunch of rankings and lists everywhere this weekend

 

you all sicken me

 

ptooey ptooey

 

Top things that sicken nooj!

 

1. Lists of any kind

2. Barry editing his earlier posts

3. DIESEL MAGIC!

4. Clean Slate Program

5. No Free Will

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that's a good list
post #1147 of 1171
Nooj feels about lists the way I feel about video essays
post #1148 of 1171
*gets to work on list of best video essays*
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*gets to work on list of best video essays*
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By all means, let's not talk about X-Men Apocalypse in the X-Men Apocalypse thread..
of course, I was talking about the length of the post not the fact that it's actually being talked about but your joke doesn't work unless you twist what I'm saying so by all means, go ahead.
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