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post #1 of 745
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I thought it might be fun to plan some other drafts for the future. You can post ideas here. I'd be interested to see how outside the box we can go. Here are some of my ideas:

Best Years In Film History

We can only draft films released during the 10 best film years in US history. We'd have to come up with some kind of agreed list of years, of course, but off the top of my head we got 1939, 1946, 2007, 1999, 1971, 1989. Could be fun to see what would go first, Stagecoach or Do The Right Thing.

Underrated Draft

As detailed in the Sci-Fi draft discussion thread. It'd be totally nuts but a lot of fun. The downside is that all the strategy and machinations would probably fall to the wayside, as people's lists would be a lot more personal than normal, but the discussion would be great.

Oscar Winners and Nominees

This would maybe have less outside the box picks than most, but as long as the films can have won/been nominated for anything, there can still be some surprises. Mondo Cane would be eligible!

Hybrids

Mutant films. To be eligible, it's got to be a melding of two genres. Lot of fun arguments and creative interpretations to be had here. I think comedy/dramas would have to be disqualified, unless a particularly compelling argument can be made.
post #2 of 745

Road Movies.  Have we done a road movies draft?

 

Musicals.

post #3 of 745

Have we ever done a COMEDY draft?

post #4 of 745
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Originally Posted by Judas Booth View Post

Have we ever done a COMEDY draft?

 

I don't think so.  I'd totally be down for that.  

 

I will still beat the drum for a one-hour television drama draft, too.  That would be like Wal-Mart on Black Friday.

post #5 of 745
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I will still beat the drum for a one-hour television drama draft, too.  That would be like Wal-Mart on Black Friday.

 

Oh, I like that.

 

Bildungsromans?

post #6 of 745
Thread Starter 
Maybe a draft for individual episodes of television. But a one hour television drama draft could barely sustain two rounds of picks.
post #7 of 745

Has there ever been a Movie Villains draft?  That could be a blast.

post #8 of 745
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post

Maybe a draft for individual episodes of television. But a one hour television drama draft could barely sustain two rounds of picks.

 

If it got the same turnout as the sci-fi draft, but that might be expecting too much.  But how about doing individual seasons, rather than episodes?

 

Villains is great too.

post #9 of 745
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Originally Posted by Patrick Ripoll View Post

Maybe a draft for individual episodes of television. But a one hour television drama draft could barely sustain two rounds of picks.

 

Totally disagree.  There is 60+ years of one-hour television to choose from.  Not everything is as vital as THE WIRE or MAD MEN, but plenty of quality television.

post #10 of 745
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Underrated Draft

As detailed in the Sci-Fi draft discussion thread. It'd be totally nuts but a lot of fun. The downside is that all the strategy and machinations would probably fall to the wayside, as people's lists would be a lot more personal than normal, but the discussion would be great.
 

 

Never done a draft but this one would probably get me to join in.

post #11 of 745
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Totally disagree.  There is 60+ years of one-hour television to choose from.  Not everything is as vital as THE WIRE or MAD MEN, but plenty of quality television.

I don't think I'm being unfair when I say that television does not have the legacy of quality that film does. But maybe that's just me.
post #12 of 745
Tv shows
Comic Books
Cartoons
Music
Video games
post #13 of 745

We already did a video game draft.

post #14 of 745

Expanding on my earlier suggestion, there's all kinds of ideas to be had by isolating individual elements of movies (like the AFI does):  Best Movie Villains; Best Movie Heroes;  Best Movie Quotes; Best Movie Monsters; etc.

post #15 of 745
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I don't think I'm being unfair when I say that television does not have the legacy of quality that film does. But maybe that's just me.

 

It's fair.  But if you break if we were to seasons rather than series, it gets to a range that is comparable to say, the 90's in film.

post #16 of 745

I would like to beat the drum for a Casting Draft.

 

Pick an older, but seminal film that most people have seen. Then, draft the actors as though it were to be filmed this week (i.e. modern actors). Most of the classics have at least 5 major roles. It would be interesting to see if you go for the leading man slot in the first round, or nab that character actor before someone else can, but take a weaker leading man.  Winner is the person with the best collection of actors to pull off the film.

 

 

Example:  Gone with the Wind Draft.

 

 

Rhett: Paul Walker

Scarlett: Jennifer Connelly

Ashley: Tobey McGuire

Melanie: Scarlett Johansson

Mammy: Octavia Spencer

 

 

I decide to skip the Rhett Butler role and nab a Oscar winner Octavia Spencer. But by the time I get back to Rhett, I, for some reason, only have Paul Walker. I have failed and my shame lingers on the board for years.

 

 

ETA: It works a lot like a football draft. I may have great receivers, defence, and running backs, but lead by Rex Grossman. Its a team... but... :D

post #17 of 745

Also, how about Adaptations?  

 

We might want to exclude remakes of older movies that aren't themselves based on source material.  So all versions of The Thing are eligible as an adaptation of Who Goes There?, but Texas Chainsaw 3D is not eligible as an adaptation of Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

 

Edit:  Actually, it's probably as easy as limiting it to films that include a "based on" credit.

post #18 of 745
We did a Comedy Knockout. I forget the rules of that (I think Chewers assign points and top 5 comedies of each decade survive for an all out brawl across decades), but I'm not sure we did a draft. There was a Horror and Action draft already, though.
post #19 of 745
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Also, how about Adaptations?  

 

We might want to exclude remakes of older movies that aren't themselves based on source material.  So all versions of The Thing are eligible as an adaptation of Who Goes There?, but Texas Chainsaw 3D is not eligible as an adaptation of Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

 

Edit:  Actually, it's probably as easy as limiting it to films that include a "based on" credit.

 

Another good one.  

post #20 of 745

Ripoll's idea of "Underrated" is an interesting one.

 

It will be similar to the FAIL draft we did in that most of the choices will be completely subjective.

 

I think a Comedy draft could be interesting because it's a wide field as far as what could honestly be considered a comedy.

 

I like the idea of a one-hour TV drama draft. But we might have to be very strict with what qualifies. Because some "action" or "sci-fi" shows are technically dramas also.
 

post #21 of 745
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Originally Posted by MrTyres View Post

I would like to beat the drum for a Casting Draft.

 

Pick an older, but seminal film that most people have seen. Then, draft the actors as though it were to be filmed this week (i.e. modern actors). Most of the classics have at least 5 major roles. It would be interesting to see if you go for the leading man slot in the first round, or nab that character actor before someone else can, but take a weaker leading man.  Winner is the person with the best collection of actors to pull off the film.

 

 

Example:  Gone with the Wind Draft.

 

 

Rhett: Paul Walker

Scarlett: Jennifer Connelly

Ashley: Tobey McGuire

Melanie: Scarlett Johansson

Mammy: Octavia Spencer

 

 

I decide to skip the Rhett Butler role and nab a Oscar winner Octavia Spencer. But by the time I get back to Rhett, I, for some reason, only have Paul Walker. I have failed and my shame lingers on the board for years.

 

 

ETA: It works a lot like a football draft. I may have great receivers, defence, and running backs, but lead by Rex Grossman. Its a team... but... :D

2nd 3rd and 4th this

 

If there is enough support you can break the draft into 2.  20 drafters each

post #22 of 745

I like MrTyres idea... BUT there are a couple of things to consider. One is that we've been doing things like this on the "Recast Your Favorite Movies" thread for years now, so we have a lot of practice and it just might not seem that fun for people to restrict it to just one movie. Though I guess the idea of making it one movie and seeing who has the best cast is challenging and interesting.
 

But it makes it feel like more of a "contest" than these drafts usually are.

post #23 of 745
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I like the idea of a one-hour TV drama draft. But we might have to be very strict with what qualifies. Because some "action" or "sci-fi" shows are technically dramas also.
 

 

Oh, absolutely.  I use the term "drama" in a very broad sense.  It essentially means "one-hour episodic television."  

post #24 of 745

Yeah, but the recasts threads are movies you choose, and you have an unlimited pool of actors and time periods from which to pull.   With a narrow field, it is a contest, but just like the drafts, you can go for theme picks. I would never want to make a mumblecore Gone with the Wind, but if that is your cake. The challenge would be the actors. Casting against type and making the argument why Patton Oswalt is really just a hard workout regime away from Rhett Butler could be amazing.

post #25 of 745
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I will still beat the drum for a one-hour television drama draft, too.  That would be like Wal-Mart on Black Friday.

 

 

I also love this idea. There has been some quality 1 hour television shows in things not called The Wire, Mad Men, or Breaking Bad. It might stretch us.

post #26 of 745

Yeah... I say let's go for that too.

 

Afterwards, we can draft SITCOMS!

 

just kidding no not really I actually think that would be cool too sorry I brought it up bye.
 

post #27 of 745

No offense but a 1 hour tv draft is a bad idea.  Not everybody will have seen the episode/show which will limit discussion.  You could pick an episode of Dexter and 80% of the draters may have never seen the episode/show. 

post #28 of 745

Voting on the Fan-Casting draft here. I had a suggestion in the other thread that the most brutal way to go would be to start with the bit players and finish with the leads so that the remaining pool of names would be that much more competitive.

post #29 of 745
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Yeah, but the recasts threads are movies you choose, and you have an unlimited pool of actors and time periods from which to pull.   With a narrow field, it is a contest, but just like the drafts, you can go for theme picks. I would never want to make a mumblecore Gone with the Wind, but if that is your cake. The challenge would be the actors. Casting against type and making the argument why Patton Oswalt is really just a hard workout regime away from Rhett Butler could be amazing.

 

The problem with this is that it's even more complicated than a normal draft, which takes a good degree of organization.  But I think a fun way to do it is have everyone draft a certain number of actors and only have the movies randomly assigned afterward.

 

And I think the competition aspect should be cranked up.  You could even do a knockout of everyone's drafted remakes after to crown a winner. 

 

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No offense but a 1 hour tv draft is a bad idea.  Not everybody will have seen the episode/show which will limit discussion.  You could pick an episode of Dexter and 80% of the draters may have never seen the episode/show. 

 

Because everyone has seen every sci-fi movie ever made?  The big issue I could see with it is that the spoiler-averse might eschew it entirely.

post #30 of 745
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Because everyone has seen every sci-fi movie ever made?  

Obviously not but I bet most in the sci fi drafters have seen 85-90%+ of the scifi movies drafted.  Out of the 60 or so I've missed 5 or 6. 

 

There is more of a commonaity among films than tv shows.  Plus there is a generation gap.  Those 30+ will have seen a hell of alot more. 

 

I just don't think a draft where half of the people or more drafting didn't see a particular tv show is much fun.  But just about everyone has seen 2001, Total Recall, E.T, Inception...

post #31 of 745
I'm sure it will self-select the participants along those lines. Not really seeing how it being tv makes it materially different from a 60s or western draft. If anything it would disadvantage the younger participants less due to the huge uptick in general quality of tv in the last 20 years
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Obviously not but I bet most in the sci fi drafters have seen 85-90%+ of the scifi movies drafted.  Out of the 60 or so I've missed 5 or 6. 

There is more of a commonaity among films than tv shows.  Plus there is a generation gap.  Those 30+ will have seen a hell of alot more. 

I just don't think a draft where half of the people or more drafting didn't see a particular tv show is much fun.  But just about everyone has seen 2001, Total Recall, E.T, Inception...
post #32 of 745

I'll throw out the idea for a WTF! Movie Draft. The weird, the cult, the simply unexplainable.

post #33 of 745
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 Not really seeing how it being tv makes it materially different from a 60s or western draft.

For 1 thing many have seen 100+ movies from the 60's.  Maybe not as many westerns.  How manty tv shows from the 60's have you seen, can name the titles and have the vast majority of drafters seen them.

 

And will anything pre 90's even be picked?  And if so how many will know it?

post #34 of 745
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I'll throw out the idea for a WTF! Movie Draft. The weird, the cult, the simply unexplainable.

 

I love this idea.

post #35 of 745
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For 1 thing many have seen 100+ movies from the 60's.  Maybe not as many westerns.  How manty tv shows from the 60's have you seen, can name the titles and have the vast majority of drafters seen them.

 

And will anything pre 90's even be picked?  And if so how many will know it?

 

Answering those questions seems like the entire point of a draft.  

 

We have a half dozen other good idea floated out here, so it's not like we need to do this one.  But I don't think "dramatic TV" is nearly as obscure a topic as you're making it out to be.

post #36 of 745
WTF, Underrated, Comedy, and Villains are all great.

I'll also suggest:

Soundtracks
Thrillers
Sequels
Guilty Pleasures (a great subjective one)
Comic Book/Superhero (probably too few films to go around in the end)
post #37 of 745
Martial Arts
Movie Scenes
Remakes
Foreign Movies Music
post #38 of 745

Base the draft on 5 different pre-determined decades - say, 50's, 70's, 80's, 00's, and the current (partial) decade. Then take 5 pre-determined categories - for example, Black and white, horror, animated, comedy, and Nicholas Cage. Five rounds, you can only use each decade once and each category once.

post #39 of 745

I love the basic simplicity of the decade drafts, and we never did get to the 40's and 50's.

post #40 of 745

Yeah, some of these ideas are a little complicated and, what's more, don't seem to lend themselves to competition.

post #41 of 745

Keep it simple and broad.

 

Again, I propose comedy as the next topic.

post #42 of 745

Comedy, imo, is extremely broad and needs some paring down.  I think villains, adaptations, and soundtracks are all good ones.  

post #43 of 745
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Yeah, a certain level of scarcity is needed.
post #44 of 745
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Comedy, imo, is extremely broad and needs some paring down.  I think villains, adaptations, and soundtracks are all good ones.  

 

I don't think comedy is any appreciably broader than science fiction or horror.  

post #45 of 745

I think the key with a comedy draft is that you've got to be able to argue that the film is primarily a comedy, not just a movie that has some funny stuff in it. Otherwise you're really open to pretty much anything.

 

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For 1 thing many have seen 100+ movies from the 60's.  Maybe not as many westerns.  How manty tv shows from the 60's have you seen, can name the titles and have the vast majority of drafters seen them.

 

And will anything pre 90's even be picked?  And if so how many will know it?

 

I think that's entirely beside the point. Who cares how many 60s TV shows people know if we aren't strictly drafting 60s TV shows. As Schwartz said, that's what the draft is all about. Also, isn't part of the great thing about drafts the fact that you end up with a list of things to go check out?

 

For the record, with very minimal research and thinking I came up with a list of 70 easily draftable shows (either by the fact that I've seen them and can attest to it or I know the reputation well enough to know it would be picked) and several others that I think would probably fall into someone else's wheelhouse and get drafted. That's a little shallow for the number of people we have in the sci-fi draft, but could probably sustain a 15-20 person draft. If we had more people, we could do individual seasons, though I think that's a little less interesting.

 

If it were not obvious already, I'm 100% behind a TV draft.

post #46 of 745
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Yeah, but the recasts threads are movies you choose, and you have an unlimited pool of actors and time periods from which to pull.   With a narrow field, it is a contest, but just like the drafts, you can go for theme picks. I would never want to make a mumblecore Gone with the Wind, but if that is your cake. The challenge would be the actors. Casting against type and making the argument why Patton Oswalt is really just a hard workout regime away from Rhett Butler could be amazing.

 

Part of the concept in the other thread was that we'd agree to use one particular film as the subject of the draft. So for instance, if we were doing Casablanca (and employing my wrinkle of running the supporting roles first) Round 1 could be everyone casting their dream actors as Ugarte or Irina... and the final round would be everyone scrambling (perhaps even trading?) to find a good Rick Blaine.

 

So yeah, I really want to do this one.

post #47 of 745

I personally would love the casting draft. It's something different and weird and punishingly dorky. If it were to happen, I think you'd need to simplify it as much as possible. Five roles, five actors, grab anyone any day. And yet, at the same time I acknowledge it's pretty far out on the edge, even for us. It might be a fine smaller draft, but it will probably have limited appeal.

 

Beyond that, I'm down for anything. WTF draft sounds great. So does Comedy. There's tons of comedies, but how many genius ones are there?

 

Underrated sounds tricky - you could argue that the person with the best final list drafted the least underrated movies. So, you know, the whole game changes. I'm not sold on it. Yet.

 

Villain draft sounds like something everyone can sink their teeth into. But then, it's also kind of hard to lose that one. There's less scarcity there than for anything else.

 

The real question though is when would such a draft take place? There was a time when we rushed straight from one draft into the next, legs akimbo, like school children in the first golden days of summer. We were young, and we thought we knew everything. We fucked it up, man. So maybe we look at a late summer spot, make an event of it? We could even sneak in a casting draft for the hardcores in the interim.

post #48 of 745
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The real question though is when would such a draft take place? There was a time when we rushed straight from one draft into the next, legs akimbo, like school children in the first golden days of summer. We were young, and we thought we knew everything. We fucked it up, man. So maybe we look at a late summer spot, make an event of it? We could even sneak in a casting draft for the hardcores in the interim.

 

 

I’m open for anything as I’m enjoying the current Draft (especially as it’s my first) but I also think we shouldn’t rush straight into another one simply because SciFi has been so successful. I remember, just before Skyfall came out, we ran a series of Bond knockouts. Having never done a knockout before, I absolutely loved them but I would be lying if I didn’t admit that running several in a row diminished the experience. Keeping it as a late summer event sounds good.

post #49 of 745
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I'll throw out the idea for a WTF! Movie Draft. The weird, the cult, the simply unexplainable.

 

LOVE this one as well. Drafting weird culty movies as opposed to scrambling to get the most famous ones sounds like a fun idea.

post #50 of 745

Any draft can be a WTF draft. Have you seen some of the picks for the first two rounds of Sci-Fi?

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