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post #201 of 427
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Originally Posted by chrknudsen View Post


 


 

Long time reader just popping in to say that I've had this issue as well. For me, the front page hasn't updated since November 30th and the last news item is "A Few Tits And You've Got A Shame Red-Band Trailer". However, just a few hours ago the front page updated with all the new content, but when I click the MORE button to see what other content I've been missing, I'm still only seeing stuff until November 30th. I imagine it's a cache/proxy issue with some ISP's?



I believe it is now all being sorted out by those who know how to fix such things.

post #202 of 427

Great job Sean. I think the most important part about all of your designs is that you gave examples and really got some discussion going on some very basic ideas. Slide shows, different size thumbnails, positions, content... all of the information is here now for Nick and Co. to sort out and decide what is right for everyone.

 

This is why I appreciate the site so much. It's been like Breakin' 2 up in here. S.O.S, Save Our Site!

post #203 of 427

Sooooo, any updates? 

post #204 of 427
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Originally Posted by SeanCE View Post

Ah okay, I get you. Thats really something that would have to be sorted out in the code, as it might not be possible. WP is a bit annoying like that. Design wise though, I'd like to get some feedback from the people in charge, whether they like this or not.

Also, going back to something Nick said when this thread started.

I've drawn up something very different, however I know this isn't going to get implemented, its interesting to see what the site could look like

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I really really like these. I mean fear the Wrath of Nunziata™ and implement them into the app like them. Just something very cozy about them. Lots of praise. I gave my thumbs up, but maybe I'll lob off some more fingers for you... ...Wonder if that Ebert wouldn't mind...
post #205 of 427

...Somethings gone horribly wrong in that quote. Thanks for the feedback. Is Joshua around to maybe come in and give us an update on whats going on? It's been 3 weeks now and nothings changed.

 

Edit: This isn't as good, VERY different. I'm not sure even I like it, its not really 'Chud' but, eh - you can see anyway. Also I stole the news feed from bleeding cool because its the only site I could think of that had the news displayed similar to how Joshua had done it, but with a white background and the logo wouldn't have stood out so much if I had a transparent png

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Edited by SeanCE - 12/9/11 at 1:18am
post #206 of 427
Hmm new look, while good, seems almost to different for being different. I like look 1 of the 4 posted before (yikes what did the forum do?).

Really like the clean green lines and torn page look. Everything is very consistent, very easy to read, and has enough new and old vibes. I even like the new logo (which really reminds me of the old yellow one).

Look 3, while great, the page tear at the bottom suddenly stands out. Something slightly off about it.
post #207 of 427

don't like the white background. hurts my eyes.

post #208 of 427

I don't see how changing from a black background to a white background will help the site.  There are tons of great looking sites with black backgrounds out there, and it's one of the things I liked about CHUD back in the early days.  Take a look around and get inspired!  In my humble little opinion the white makes it look like every other movie blog out there.  If you're going that route you might as well just find a decent blog template and use that instead of building something from scratch.

post #209 of 427
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Originally Posted by Scruff View Post

I don't see how changing from a black background to a white background will help the site.  There are tons of great looking sites with black backgrounds out there, and it's one of the things I liked about CHUD back in the early days.  Take a look around and get inspired!  In my humble little opinion the white makes it look like every other movie blog out there.  If you're going that route you might as well just find a decent blog template and use that instead of building something from scratch.

Same here. I'm all for keeping the black.

I wish more sites would use it actually, it would reduce power costs like crazy. Seriously!
 

 

post #210 of 427

Keep up the good work! Your effort both awes and inspires me

post #211 of 427

I know, I don't like the white either, but I was just putting it out there for people. I wish I could afford proper time on this, as it is, I'm knocking these things out in 15 minutes, if the site ever gets a full redesign, I'd love to take a crack at it. But for now, my hasty muddles will have to do. Its all about trying things out and seeing what people like.

post #212 of 427

Variety is the spice of life!

post #213 of 427

I hope you don't think that was a crack at your work - your initiative is very much appreciated!  Keep it up!!

post #214 of 427

Over the years I've been a really strong advocate for this site amongst people I know IRL.  With the very rare exception the response has been along the lines of "The colour scheme hurts my eyes"  which kills me because I know most would love it if they'd give it the chance.  Personally, it's never bothered me but I do think a new colour scheme could only help... although as good as Sean's work is that white mockup isn't the way to go.


Edited by Oafley Jones - 12/12/11 at 2:30pm
post #215 of 427

The trouble is, this is only a tweak, a full redesign would afford more flexibility, but as it is, there's a slow back end, laggy loading time and because of wordpress I'm designing things that work in a very old fashioned HTML kind of way. So yeah, it could be a whole lot better, but with so many limitations, its a bit difficult. 

post #216 of 427

What do you mean "because of Wordpress"?  I'd assume this site has it's own content management system.  I'll admit that load times here are painful, but I forgive them because they're usually worth the wait!

post #217 of 427

As far as I'm aware, Chud still uses Wordpress, I may be wrong though. But there are reasons, as pointed out earlier in this thread as to why the design can't stray too far from whats kicking around now.  

post #218 of 427

Great looking stuff. I know I'm in the minority but I really like the white background.

post #219 of 427

Why not just have a simple design like the SuperHeroHype boards. They're simple, yes, but that's all you need.

 

This.....

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Looks like shit.

post #220 of 427

Thanks for the input. What suggestions have you got?

post #221 of 427

The white background is definitely easier on the eyes, but it does feel like the site loses a bit of personality. Maybe that's just because I'm used to CHUD having a black background. I bet after a week or two, it would feel just as much like CHUD as the current design does...

post #222 of 427
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Originally Posted by chrknudsen View Post

The white background is definitely easier on the eyes ...



This must be some biological thing to do with the eye because for a lot of people the black background is easier on the eyes. As if when there's less light there flooding out of the screen there's less work for the eye to do, but for other people they need more light coming out of the screen. I have no idea what the ratio is but I prefer the mellower vibe of white text on dark backgrounds myself.

post #223 of 427

I agree completely. For me the bright glare of some white backgrounds is overwhelming, like I'm staring at the sky.

 

But as the other Josh M said earlier in this thread, there really isn't much reason for people to debate it here. They're just doing a tweak of the main page, not the entire site.

post #224 of 427

Sooo... 

post #225 of 427

Keep it black, some of us with LED monitors will have the eyes blown out the back of their heads if you want with a white background.

post #226 of 427

So, when are we gonna do this then?

post #227 of 427

Is this dead?  I was so excited.

post #228 of 427

I'd rather it wasn't. I'm still happy to do any work for free as long as it's enacted. 

post #229 of 427
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Originally Posted by SeanCE View Post

 

CHUD15.jpg

 


Still my fave.

 

post #230 of 427
I know something is happening, with something... ...all I can say.cool.gif
post #231 of 427

Could you PM me? 

post #232 of 427

 

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So, when are we gonna do this then?


Stuff on this site takes ages to get done. It's practically a standing joke.

post #233 of 427

You know where I find the latest articles..  Lastest Post in the Forum sidebar.  Just now ....  THOR 2 SETTLES ON A DIRECTOR AND DATE, RDJ TALKS UP IRON MAN 3 that looks interesting I thought as I scanned the page looking for the direct link.  Eventually, I realized it was in the film strip.  I mean for FFS I'm not going to see the story if I have to hover over that thing.  This is why I've probably gone from consuming everything on the old site to reading only one or two items a week now, nothing stands out.  If it weren't for the discussions in the forum I'd have given up at this stage.

post #234 of 427

Um...

 

So...

 

Anything?

post #235 of 427

I emailed Nick seeing if he wanted any help from me, but I've not heard anything back from him yet. Pretty sure something is happening though. With or without any input from me.

post #236 of 427

Bump'd.

post #237 of 427

umpity bump bump bumpity boo

post #238 of 427

Sooooo...?

post #239 of 427
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Originally Posted by SeanCE View Post

Okay, so some people aren't liking the slide show. I personally like it, I think people do use them, but not on this site, as it is now, because the grill graphic is in the way. Its mentioned above that that people would be waiting for it to scroll past? I don't think anyone does that either, but this slideshow does have buttons on it, so you can scroll through yourself, you're not at the mercy of the timer.

 

Anyway, I've done this, taking a leaf from the previous designs. See what you think, I imagine the chewers will like it, but I don't think casuals will, I still think the best way to go is the slideshow. I'd be wary of new people thinking it looks 'old'. Graphically, I don't like this, just because it ruins the shape of the green lines, breaking them up by with the ad. Oh and from a graphic design position, new youtube is horrific. 

 

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Originally Posted by roboTimKelly View Post


Still my fave.

 

Seconded.  As a newer chewer (July 2011) I can honestly admit that even though I had visited the site prior to settling on it, I was normally turned off by the setup.  I would read a few articles and the I was off not really checking to find items that weren't listed in the film strip or the recent news.  I gave it much more thought after going to the Don't be Afraid of the Dark screening, meeting both Renn and Nick there, liking their attitudes and started getting my movie news and gossip from the local community.
 

 

post #240 of 427

So, something is happening with the main page...

 

Edit: To whoever is doing that, I heartily suggest fixing the layout to something like this, because you're almost getting it right.

It just needs to look like a website from 2013, not 2003.

 

 


Edited by SeanCE - 4/12/13 at 12:50am
post #241 of 427

It's being tweaked constantly.

post #242 of 427
You know when you ask people to show a little love to the site and they actually give you informed professional advice and design examples, and you reply like that or ignore it? Thats why people get annoyed.
post #243 of 427

Sean, I really liked your green on grey color scheme from 2011. That, tied in with this design:

 

 

 

"That's the world I one day wanna live in..."

post #244 of 427
SeanCE, let's discuss on the Facebooks. I might be interested in employing some of those techniques in the not too distant future.
post #245 of 427
The problem with that 2011 design and whats currently being tweaked is that the graphics are horrible. Even in the two years since I did those things have changed hugely in the way things look and are used.

This place is a nightmare to use on phones and tablets. I don't know who's in charge of this but they have no eye for funtionality and design.

Just follow this and you'll have nearly everything sorted:

Change the header and menus like I suggested.

Make the film strip just 4 larger boxes the scroll through. Make sure you have the headlibe either attatched to it or shows when you hover over it.

Put boxes equal to the size of an advert down the right that permanatly promotes and updates features/columns and hast the latest news articles. As well as a box showing how many facebook fans there are.

Have one central column of news articles on the front page. With an image, a credit, a headline and lead in. Make sure they're tagged above with relevance 'news' etc.

When you click news, or reviews etc on the menu it should change that central column to the most recent of whatever you clicked.

The one good thing right now is that the new comments and social media buttons are a massive improvement.

This isn't difficult or complicated, would take at most a weekend to implement and the site would be usable. You're also more likely to get people sharing pages. Right now I imagine most people don't from embarrassment.
post #246 of 427
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Originally Posted by SeanCE View Post

You know when you ask people to show a little love to the site and they actually give you informed professional advice and design examples, and you reply like that or ignore it? Thats why people get annoyed.

All input is appreciated but for one, we've been tweaking this literally all day long.  The e-mails and changes are up in the triple digits by this point.  Also, I like you, but you kind of come across as "Do it my way or it's garbage."  That's not input, that's steamrolling.  Best intentions being what they are.  And I dig that you care enough about the place to take the time and effort to mockup your ideas for what would work.  That's an investment that I think all of us can appreciate even if ultimately it's not what we go with.  BUT all that aside - I, for one, am super-pleased with what's been accomplished today.  Evolution is an ongoing process, of course, but the improvements over what things have been for a long time are great.  I'm excited for it to go live, I know Nick's excited, hopefully you guys will dig it.

post #247 of 427

Also, I'll add that the work being done right now is pretty much Homepage-specific, but the ROS stuff is definitely not going to be ignored.

 

OH - disregard.  There's been some stuff done to the ROS pages as well.

post #248 of 427

I like the redesign. I think it's a step in the right direction as far as streamlining clutter and redundant links on the home page. I like Sean's suggestions for streamlining it even further. Basically, just let it feel more easy to navigate, like with one central column of all news stories. There are four different listings on the home page between Latest News, Latest Home Video, Latest Reviews, and Latest Columns. It may all make sense technically, but I think it could be more intuitive to search through. I don't think that those four columns need to keep stories separate, though there is some overlap, like reviews showing up in Latest News. I'm guessing there's some kind of design term for what that signifies and how it can be improved.

 

On top of that, you have the newly included Latest column on the right, which I appreciate, though, still, it's redundant in a way that isn't useful for someone like me, who just wants to see what the new stories are. On top of that, you have the row of sort of top stories across the top of pictures that link to stories and reviews. I think it gives a slightly misleading feel that there are more stories than are listed in the four main article headings, and is just redundant. I realize that part of design is weighting stuff of more importance with larger text and images or putting them high on a page, but I think that idea could be executed in a way that serves the intent better.

 

I don't know. For me, it seems to come down to a site I love that makes its home page needlessly cluttered. I think what you're going for could be achieved effectively by something along the lines of reducing the different categories for different news. Maybe you have research that shows differently, but does anyone search for news stories based on whether it's home video, a latest column, a latest review, or under the catch all of news? It seems like news and reviews could just be posted on the home page, and then you could link to easily accessible pages that divide things up further based on the categories that you currently have the home page. So you get the benefit of keeping them for those who are interested in searching for articles along the lines of the categories posted, but who don't need them subdivided on the front page, where they just want new stories.

 

I hope that comes across as helpful.

post #249 of 427

We haven't pushed the changes live yet, bud.  :)

post #250 of 427

Just please have less less less crap on the main page. FOCUS!

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