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post #951 of 1089
Mulan had a moment of it.

Maybe Hercules does at some point?

Tarzan?
post #952 of 1089

Oh Nooj is awake. 9am on your coast?

post #953 of 1089
Sure
post #954 of 1089

Noice.

post #955 of 1089
From Dan Schindel... on what makes Ghibli Ghibli and why its supposed fans can never replicate it, nor should they.

http://moviemezzanine.com/three-pillars-studio-ghibli/
post #956 of 1089
So was watching Frozen with the toddler earlier, and I was reminded of how Elsa's powers aren't explained. I've wondered about this before, and I think I figured it out: the filmmakers are committed to the metaphor.

When Anna is taken to the trolls, they ask if Elsa was cursed or born with her powers. It's not expanded beyond that, like if powers run in the family or anything. She's just born that way.

It makes me think they knew exactly what they were doing, allowing Elsa to be a stand-in for anyone that has ever felt like an outsider, whether it be someone with mental illness or introverts or those that suffer from depression, but specifically homosexuality. Otherwise why be so vague about the powers?
post #957 of 1089

sometimes, powers are just powers when it comes to fairy tales, and they don't need to be explained

 

as long as you establish it early on  ("once upon a time, there was a girl who had freezing powers"

 

except not with those awful rock trolls

 

I hate them as I hate bort

 

 

but yes, I'm sure they knew what they were doing in keeping that vague, especially since Elsa being an outsider is such a huge part of the movie... to the point that it makes her big empowering song take place as she has left her kingdom in utter frozen ruin

post #958 of 1089
I love the Nooj.
post #959 of 1089
Watching Big Hero 6 now.

So good.
post #960 of 1089

only little baby-men like big hero 6

 

I always knew you were smalllllll tiiiiiiiiime

 

highly derivative competent fluff

post #961 of 1089
'Salright. I'd like it better if it could decide on a direction somewhere earlier than act 3.
post #962 of 1089
I agree, once it becomes a superhero movie it feels like a whole different story.

But it's still awesome.

Of course I'm a baby man. I'm here, aren't I?
post #963 of 1089
it wants to be avengers, how to train your dragon, kung fu panda and iron giant all at once without really ever feeling like it buys into any of them
post #964 of 1089
That's about the size of it. Also one of those comical attempts by American comic artists to ape manga/anime back when it was just becoming a thing over here.
post #965 of 1089
But dat are you satisfied with your care scene...

I agree nothing in it compares to the "Test Drive" scene in How to Train Your Dragon.
post #966 of 1089

baymax is the only noteworthy character in the movie

 

it's a movie where I really wish the villain turned out to be his brother... not because it would make any sense.  Just to see how the movie would try to figure out a way out of that cheesy corner

post #967 of 1089
Buncha sourpusses in here.

You let me down, Nooj!!!

I will never forgive yooooouuuuuuuuu
post #968 of 1089
It's a movie where not only do we not discover who the actual villain is until the third act, we don't even have a clue what his motivation is until just before the climax.
post #969 of 1089

MY DAUGHTER!!!  MY FAMILY!!!  WHERE'S MY WIFE????

 

(ford finger)

 

 

it's a perfectly nice pleasant animated family movie

 

 

the movie definitely doesn't put too much emphasis about the villain as a character.  just more as a mirror for Hiro to compare his THIRST for revenge to.  so I didn't really have a problem with that structure.  I just wish it was the brother as the villain instead!  just because!

post #970 of 1089
A strange thing to harp on. The villain's motivation and methods are hinted at and set up very early on. The unmasking at the prison is also at about the halfway point.

Frozen has a similar late revelation about the villain. But oh I forgot you guys don't like Frozen.
post #971 of 1089
Yeah, Frozen has a similar revelation about the villain, and it's even more out-of-nowhere and pointless! Because it's a movie that has no idea what it's about!
post #972 of 1089

nobody likes frozen

 

only let it go

 

frozen's reveal is mostly a cheat to tack on a ticking clock and hissable villain for the finale

 

man, how much more interesting frozen would be if it actually came down to the two sisters having to actually deal with their issues instead of redirecting it towards some jerk

post #973 of 1089
Ya cowards.

Ya damn fools...
post #974 of 1089
The reindeer song is better anyway.
post #975 of 1089

I don't even remember a reindeer song...

post #976 of 1089
When the dude and his reindeer are in the barn.
post #977 of 1089

as long as it's not that goddamned rock troll song that comes in right when the finale is trying to build

 

THE WORST

post #978 of 1089
Frozen?

So good.
post #979 of 1089
The rock troll song sounds like it was written and performed by the cast of a school play.
post #980 of 1089

only someone who thinks frozen is so good could think the same of big hero 6

post #981 of 1089
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul C View Post
 

One of the more underrated things about Ghibli is their knack for making mundane everyday life seem vaguely magical just by animating it.


If my stupid life was scored by Joe Hisaishi, it'd be pretty damned magical too.

post #982 of 1089
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post

only someone who thinks frozen is so good could think the same of big hero 6

I mean, this is like saying I like cheeseburgers so I like pizza.

So sure.
post #983 of 1089

eugh, fast food analogies!

post #984 of 1089
I love Frozen, but think Big Hero 6 is bad. What do I get?
post #985 of 1089
I went to Uno last night with MichaelM and he ordered chicken.

Not chicken pizza.

Chicken.
post #986 of 1089

I don't know what Uno is

 

is it a chicken place?

post #987 of 1089
Chicago style pizza place.
post #988 of 1089
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcnooj82 View Post
 

I don't know what Uno is

 

 

Pizza Hut on growth hormones.

post #989 of 1089

do they serve chicken?

post #990 of 1089
Obviously, because MichaelM ordered it.

In Cincinnati we don't need Pizza Hut because we have LaRosa's.
post #991 of 1089
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartleby_Scriven View Post

Obviously, because MichaelM ordered it.
 

then what's the problem?

post #992 of 1089
You eat pizza in a pizza place!

What is this, Seinfeld?

just a salad

just a salad

just a salad
post #993 of 1089

people can eat whatever is made available on the menu

post #994 of 1089
Noooooooooooo

Pizza in pizza
post #995 of 1089
Quote:
Originally Posted by commodorejohn View Post

Yeah, Frozen has a similar revelation about the villain, and it's even more out-of-nowhere and pointless! Because it's a movie that has no idea what it's about!

Frozen doesn't have a villain at all until that reveal, though.

post #996 of 1089
True enough!
post #997 of 1089
Frozen isn't totally villain-free before then.

Earlier in the movie, the movie employs some narrative red herrings in the form of that older guy from a neighboring kingdom who is looking to execute some sort of political power move. That's what Hans was left to protect the kingdom from while Anna was gone.

And then the movie turns Hans into a megalomaniacal villain at a heel turn.
post #998 of 1089

I had pizza the night before! I had leftover pizza to eat today! I NEEDED SOMETHING ELSE!

post #999 of 1089

Also, the chicken was very good! The broccoli was not evenly hot, though. I suspect they nuked it instead of steaming.

 

Also also, we got to shame one of Bart's friends because he hadn't seen Game of Thrones.

post #1000 of 1089
I haven't seen thronegame. I prefer my fantasy to star people with hair-metal manes and be backed by drum machines and synthesizers.
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